Beginning as a house brand in the 1930’s for Montgomery Ward, Recording King acoustic guitars and banjos were developed during the Golden Age of musical craftsmanship. Have heard you, erik, and it passed my mind. No, it's ...". When I get the banjo, gonna take it to a luthier in Holland to have some spikes put on it, and perhaps a no-knot tailpiece and the renaissance head, and also have it set-up professionally. $599.99 Scale Length: 26-3/8" Nut Width: 1-1/4" Neck Wood: Maple Fretboard Wood: Padauk (Scooped) Peghead Overlay: Black Peghead Inlay: Abalone Recording King Fret Markers: Pearl Dots Nut Material: Bone Spikes: None Tuners: Planetary Finish: Hand-Rubbed Brown Satin Rim Size: 11" Rim Wood: 2-Ply Maple Recording King Ot25 Madison Old-time Banjo. Recording King OT25 Madison Old-Time Banjo item# H87216L*MINT CONDITION* The Recording King OT25 Madison Banjo is an old-time picking machine. ET usually ship the same business day Then the tailpiece; when I'm not mistaken the no-knot is not anymore the "must have" clawhammer piece like it used to be, and the advantage of buying a relative cheap no-knot, is that I have both at hand, the presto and the no-knot. Could use minor set-up, fret polish, etc. Since I put some 5-star planets on my Crow also..both are perfect, lightweight and good sounding banjos...I love them! Trending price is based on prices over last 90 days. You might not want to alter it any more than that, perhaps nothing "permanent" like removing frets or making a scoop, which would affect resale value. http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/240160, 'Little Phoebe an original tune by Arnie Naiman', 'Online banjo contest 2020: Arnie Naiman plays Flowery Girls', 'Camp Chase banjo contest -The 49th Annual Santa Barbara Old-Time Fiddlers’ Festival by Arnie Naiman', 'Midnight Sky by Arnie Naiman from the Album " 5 Strings Attached~Vol 2"', 'On My Way To Somewhere / 45 km To Town by Arnie Naiman', 'Sullivan Festival Deluxe with old growth rim', 'Haning's Farewell played by Arnie Naiman', 'Square Peg with Jim Childress & Arnie Naiman', '"Cumberland Gap" | Clifton Hicks (Lee Sexton)'. A banjo which is sold with a scoop can be a better choice as you will probably want to play over the neck further down the track. erikforgod - Posted - 07/07/2012:  16:45:43. With a hand-rubbed satin finish, a maple neck with adjustable truss rod and a true 2-ply steam bent maple rim, the Madison starts with a great foundation for a serious banjo. Free Shipping. Either way these things can all be easily changed in the future should you change your mind. I would really like to know if the OT25 has some advantages over the O25 what makes up for the difference in money and waiting time. Main consideration was the size of the banjo. The neck is nice and smooth and comfortable for me and both banjos were about U$S 499. With the OT25 I have more options available, but I think the O25 can be transferred in the OT25. Recording King Banjos are hand made from solid maple and solid mahogany. I hear Jim Pankey say (who only had the prototype) that the future Oldtime production model should have a thinner rim than the O25. This item Recording King RK-OT25-BR Madison Open Back Banjo, Scooped Fretboard. Recording King Beginner Banjo - RKH-055-string Bluegrass Banjo with Resonator The Recording King Beginner Banjo RKH-05 "Dirty 30's" is a 5-string bluegrass beginner banjo with wood resonator making it best to learn bluegrass on. C $95.80 shipping. Because, if you real get into it, it's a safe bet you'll want to "upgrade" to a better old time banjo in the next few years. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright 2021 Banjo Hangout. Yesterday bought the Gold Tone BC-120. Same for tailpieces. Banjo Type: Open Back. pastorharry - Posted - 07/07/2012:  01:02:21, I believe they are very similar, you could change the head and tailpiece yourself, even scoop it yourself with minimum skills and a bit of elbow grease, I did a couple with needle nose pliers to remove frets, a rounded rasp, and rubber sanding block going from course to fine paper. Now, there is also this RK-OT25 in the shop, that is on sale, new, for 440 dollar, strap included, but this one will be available only in October again. Edited by - erikforgod on 07/07/2012 16:46:47. like they say, nothing so changeable like a man. Chances are when you decide to upgrade they will have not just maintain their value but going up in price and you'll be better off buying the banjo you want at that time. Click to browse current inventory! The Recording King Madison banjos offer players an ideal combination of quality, versatility and value. I say go for the RK-025 and get playing now...Maybe a bit of stuffing under the head and a slightly taller bridge and your good to go. C $599.00. No, the banjo has the fiberskyn head. Why Shop With Us? Also saw a video on youtube, mentioning the OT25 might have a thinner rim, cause of the weight being more suited for Old Timers perhaps, but how those this effects the sound? The RK-OT25 is an old-time picking machine, with features like a scooped fretboard, Presto tailpiece and old-style Remo FiberSkyn head. Orders placed before 5 p.m. That said, you may want the fully fretted neck in the future and find that you like the banjo exactly as it comes. Hmmm, pardon me I was thinking one of the banjos under consideration was the resonator RK 25. Doesn't a heavier rim produce deeper, richer sounds? Last but not least, the scoop. If you know a luthier you trust to scoop the neck for you at a reasonable price, by all means go ahead and buy the cheaper model. Copyright © 1995-2021 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Head: REMO Fiberskyn, high crown. Building on this piece of American history, our Recording King instruments uphold the … Enjoy! Recording King products have been a part of our range for 16 year(s). Recording King RK-Ot25-Br. ;). You may, however, start a new topic and refer to this topic with a link: http://www.banjohangout.org/archive/240160. The Recording King RK OT 25 is a 5-string open back old time beginner clawhammer banjo that has authentic old timey banjo tone and is easy to learn banjo on. Thanks everyone for the advice, and I'm going for the RK-O25. From Recording King: Part of our Tonewood Reserve Series, the Recording King RD-318 evokes classic dreadnought style, sound and volume thanks to hand-selected tonewoods and vintage styling. DVD-quality lessons (including tabs/sheet music) available for immediate viewing on any device. Free shipping on most orders. My advice: go with your gut. etc.). Recording King Banjos are designed by Greg Rich formally of Gibson. It's a bluegrass banjo! At the moment am not playing up the fretboard, and by the looks of it, don't think I will be doing that in the near future, so the scooped part is not needed now. Tried a bit of playing up the neck on my banjo, and it isn't that hard as I thought it would be. Used Recording King RR-60 Square Neck Resophonic Resonator Vintage Sunburst. You can try al kinds of heads to see which one you like best (Renaissance, Fiberskyn, Remo and Five Star top.frosted and clear heads, etc. If you continue, we will assume that you agree to. On this page you can find 3 examples of the differences between them, and to my ears, the renaissance has the best of both worlds, the lower and the high tones. site1sku116730818 site1prod116730818 116730818 site1sku116730818 Recording King RK-OT25-BR Banjo Skip to main content Skip to footer. Recording King Dirty 30S Open Back Tone Ring Banjo & Tuner with RoadRunner Case The Recording King RK-R36 & RK-R20 5-string banjos are hand made with beautiful mahogany necks, … Put the resonator and flange away safely, and clawhammer to your heart's content. But, then again, I just started playing so what do I know. Also did some research in the differences between skins, and read some discussions about it on this forum, and I tend to like the renaissance above the fiberskyn. With a hand-rubbed satin finish, a maple neck with adjustable truss rod, and a true steam-bent maple rim, the Madison RK-OT25 is a vintage-style picking machine. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. We need the Grich to confirm if the production model is really made that way now... and in my last message, I noticed some mistakes; should be like this; "I made a bid for the RK-O25 and if he refuses it, I wont pursuit it any further and wait for the new RK-OT25 in Oktober....", The Old Timer - Posted - 07/07/2012:  12:43:30. Anyway, I made a bid for the RK-O25 and he refuses it, I want pursuit it any further and wait for the new RK-OT25 in Oktober. Recording King RK-OT25-BR "Madison" Open Back 5-String Banjo Scooped Fretboard Affordable well built first banjo! Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Best Selling in Banjos. Have read the reviews of the O25, and they all seem very good. erikforgod - Posted - 07/07/2012:  13:29:59. View cart for details. Kay Musical Instrument Company was a US musical instrument manufacturer of the United States, in operation from 1890. The lowest-priced brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable).Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag.See details for additional description. sku: RKOB25OT Recording King Madison banjos offer players an unparalleled combination of quality, versatility, and value. I know a man who's considered an expert in banjo-tuning and repair in Holland, Wim van de Weg, who am sure can make a scoop on my banjo if I would wanted it. MODEL: RK-OT25-BR. or Best Offer. Peghead Overlay Black. Is there anyone who can confirm this? As for the scoop thing, to me it looks a bit strange, playing over the fretboard, and also haven't seen any old video's of people playing like that, so maybe it's a fashion thing to do? I may be wrong but I think the No-Knot would probably work against the sound of a Renaissance head a bit...but its all a matter of taste. Case sold separately. Good luck Bard I hope you win the bid! What Pastor Harry said... Tailpiece and head are personal preferences. Having said that...the only really critique I have heard about these banjos is that they are a bit on the heavy side like around 6 pounds or so...some folks like that some dont. The banjo offered is a half year old, used, Recording King RK-O25 for about 350 dollar, gig-bag included. Put the resonator and flange away safely, and clawhammer to your heart's content.You might not want to alter it any more than that, perhaps nothing "permanent" like removing frets or making a scoop, which would affect resale value.Because, if you real get into it, it's a safe bet you'll want to "upgrade" to a better old time banjo in the next few years.Enjoy! HOWEVER since then I have changed my mind and discovered that I really like playing over the neck and actually prefer it for its sweeter less raspier mellower tone...each to his own. If not, the O25 is probably the ticket. Will be good exercise in practicing my patience. The Recording King Madison banjos offer players an ideal combination of quality, versatility and value. About the rim, I saw this video where he tells the rim will be thinner on the OT version. "it's an open back! Hide these Google ads: join the Players Union! It's fine for clawhammer (and finger-picking). With a hand-rubbed satin finish, a maple neck with adjustable truss rod, and a true steam-bent maple rim, the Madison RK-OT25 is a vintage-style picking machine. Recording King RK-OT25-BR Recording King Madison Open Back Banjo has 0 ratings (Score 0 out of 5 based on 0 ratings ).. Disclaimer. Peghead: Recording King Madison. It's built especifically for old-time players, with features like a scooped fretboard, no-knot tailpiece and old-style Remo FiberSkyn head. Bard I almost pulled the trigger last year for a Madison...but to be honest the RK-OTMadision is much better especially if you are looking into learning the Round-Peak clawhammer style. Something went wrong.  ARCHIVED TOPIC: Recording King RK-O25 v. RK-OT25, Please note this is an archived topic, so it is locked and unable to be replied to. Recording King RGA-A9M-CFE4 Guitar w/padded bag. Old Timer, we are comparing two opemnack models, the O25 and the OT-25, They both have bracket shoes and no resonator. item 1 Recording King RK-OT25-BR Madison Open Back Banjo, Scooped Fretboard 1 -, item 2 New Recording King RK-OT25-BR Openback Banjo Open Back Old Time Picking Banjos 2 -, 4.9 out of 5 stars based on 21 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 4 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 24 product ratings, 5.0 out of 5 stars based on 2 product ratings, 4.3 out of 5 stars based on 4 product ratings, 4.7 out of 5 stars based on 3 product ratings. Weekly newsletter includes free lessons, favorite member content, banjo news and more. Bard I was like you in the beginning..I never saw Kentucky banjo players use a scoop and I thought it was weird so I bought my first Goodtime without the scoop. Think will keep to playing over the head, and if the tone's not low enought, can always loosen the head a bit of try another head or bridge. The foundation of the 318's tone comes from solid Adirondack spruce tops that we've been naturally aging for the past 30 years. I bought a Goodtime without a scoop and did get it scooped later on. ELDERLY INSTRUMENTS Also hard to tell O (for open back?) The Recording King RK-OT25 banjo is an old-time picking machine, with a steam-bent maple rim, 24-bracket tension hoop, and the clean look of all of our Madison banjos. Only thing with my cheap banjo, is the 5th string is a bit to low for my thumb. That's the RK-R25 with the tube and plate flange. Maybe I can change the O25 in the OT25 if it would be necessary. Some said I couldn't go wrong with either this or the Deering. My personal advice is be a bit patient and wait for the Madison-OT. Was wondering, since you didn't buy the Recording King, what banjo did you buy and are you satisfied with it? They sound great, look great, and the price is right too. 8% back in rewards. My first choice was the OT25 cause this one is more suited for the style I like to play, clawhammer, but the O25 is almost the same, so was wondering if the only differences are the tailpiece, head and the scoop. I would agree. Edited by - erikforgod on 07/07/2012 13:34:40. I know there are oldtime jams in Holland...I saw a video recently of a bunch of Dutch old-time jammers at an old farmhouse outside of Amsterdam... their maybe you can try different banjos and see what you really like. C $509.64. All Forums All Rights Reserved. sku: 60U-206483 Enter the world of open-back banjos with this affordable Recording King Madison Series RK-OT25, nice bright sound, maple rim and neck, Fiberskyn head, quality hardware. or Best Offer. Call Toll Free: 1 … Or did it have the standard Remo frosted stock head? buzzardmountain.com/blog/archi...Head.html. Both banjos are high quality Eastern Rock maple neck and rims and very lightweight. I have a Presto tailpiece and a Remo/Huber top-frosted head on my Tubaphone openback. from 0 numeral I thought might show up in "025" overseas. But, maybe by the time to be ready for a scoop, another banjo will find her way to me, one never knows. But I think if you wait for the OT-Madison you will have the option of playing that way "If you want too"  With the regular Madison, you wont be able to...well you can frail over the frets but it is a bit uncomfortable. Edited by - mikehalloran on 07/07/2012 08:38:41. Many also suggested I try to find a used banjo to get a better instrument in my price range. Reverb is a marketplace bringing together a wide-spanning community to buy, sell, and discuss all things music gear. We've built this banjo specifically for old-time players, with features like our scooped fretboard, no-knot tailpiece and old … With a hand-rubbed satin finish, a maple neck with adjustable truss rod, and a true steam-bent maple rim, the Madison RK-OT25 is a vintage-style picking machine.  Shopping Advice Kay was established in 1931 in Chicago, Illinois, by Henry "Kay" Kuhrmeyer, from the assets of the former Stromberg-Voisinet (founded as "Groeschel Mandolin Company" in 1890).. The Recording King Madison banjos offer players an ideal combination of quality, versatility and value. Yesterday I got this offer that's hard for me to refuse, but am having some doubts I would like to share with you. It has a Fiberskyn head and No-Knot tailpiece for the plunky mellow sound and the fingerboard scoop....I think you would be happier paying the U$S 440 upgrade for the OT-Madison. For me I like a more mellower tone...thats why I changed the tailpieces to a No-Knot on both my Goodtime Crow and my Goodtime classic banjo and it really gave them both a nice old time sound boost. Many clawhammer players like a presto tailpiece for the slight downward string pressure....John Balch comes to mind.I have a frosted remo head on my Bart Reiter regent and love it. If you want to sound like those who play claw hammer over the neck, get the scoop. With a steam-bent maple rim, 24-bracket tension hoop, and the clean look of all of our Madison banjos. true true. mikehalloran - Posted - 07/07/2012:  08:29:45. The flange is EASILY removed from the Madison 25 bluegrass banjo. The O25 that you bid on..did it have the Renaissance head already? 'Little Phoebe an original tune by Arnie Naiman' 5 min, 'Online banjo contest 2020: Arnie Naiman plays Flowery Girls' 6 min, 'Camp Chase banjo contest -The 49th Annual Santa Barbara Old-Time Fiddlers’ Festival by Arnie Naiman' 7 min, 'Midnight Sky by Arnie Naiman from the Album " 5 Strings Attached~Vol 2"' 7 min, 'On My Way To Somewhere / 45 km To Town by Arnie Naiman' 8 min, 'Sullivan Festival Deluxe with old growth rim' 9 min, 'Haning's Farewell played by Arnie Naiman' 9 min, 'Square Peg with Jim Childress & Arnie Naiman' 10 min, '"Cumberland Gap" | Clifton Hicks (Lee Sexton)' 42 min. Hundreds of quality new and used banjos available. Take your playing to the next level with the help of a local or online banjo teacher. Rim: 3 ply Steam Bent Maple. Now, there is also this RK-OT25 in the shop, that is on sale, new, for 440 dollar, strap included, but this one will be available only in October again. Since I purchased two custom Tim Purcell banjo bridges and also installed a No-Knot tailpiece on both of them...they sound absolutely perfect. pluckyfingers - Posted - 07/06/2012:  22:43:53. Free Standard Ground shipping (48 contiguous states, some overweight and Used/Vintage items excluded). Bard I purchased a Deering Goodtime Crow which is a scoopless banjo and then I bought a Deering Goodtime scooped neck classic banjo. The Recording King RK-O25 Madison banjo offers players an unparalleled combination of quality, versatility and value. But all in all they are excellent banjos and Jim Pankey up above gives a good demo about the OT madison line....I would wait for the Madison-OT personally....it offers you more. So, maybe will have it made scooped too, don't know yet. By the way..before I forget: "The thinner maple rim is just to give the banjo a bit more resonance and also probably to bring the weight down...but I bet it wont be much thinner...but usually a thinner rim gives a banjo more volume and a bit more resonance..", Edited by - erikforgod on 07/07/2012 06:14:50, The Old Timer - Posted - 07/07/2012:  08:09:13. Perhaps I was looking at this the wrong way, and should see it as an extra option in my playing, same as with drop-thumbing. With a hand-rubbed satin finish, a maple neck with adjustable truss rod, and a true steam-bent maple rim, the Madison RK-OT25 is a vintage-style picking machine. Peghead Inlay: Recording King Block. I didn't find anything used that was affordable. The OT model has a scoop (tailpiece and head are also different, but these are things you can change according to your taste). Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- Save on Banjos, Current slide {CURRENT_SLIDE} of {TOTAL_SLIDES}- You may also like, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. To inform our customers as best we can about Recording King products, you will find a total of 1055 media, reviews and test reports on Recording King products on our website - among them the following 635 product images, 90 sound samples and 330 customers' reviews. My best recommendation to you would be to just get a used Recording King o25 or Deering Goodtime. Many of us learned to frail without hitting the wood, myself included. Hundreds of quality new and used banjos available. The majority of the folks on the forum suggested that the Recording King banjo was the best bang for the buck. C $50.00 shipping. My next banjo, however will most likely be a fretless and a real luthier made banjo... am ready to invest...probably late this year or early next in a custom banjo. Its a 400 km ride, so wanna do as much in one visit. The lowest-priced brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). - Recording King Ot25 Madison Old-time Banjo. I didn't know they now had two different types of open back model 25. The flange is EASILY removed from the Madison 25 bluegrass banjo. I just would hate to see you like me....find out later you wanted a scooped banjo and didnt have one. youtube.com/v/2ZcvqU7EU5g?vers...amp;rel=0" />, erikforgod - Posted - 07/07/2012:  06:02:49. Still thanks for all the input, it helped me to find hopefully the right banjo for me. Am a big man, so the 12 inch pot suits me more and also the wider neck will help me with the chords I hope ;) Its not in the same price range as the discussed Recording Kings, but think will enjoy this for a longer time. Bard the advantage with the No-Knot is not only a more "authentic" old time look but also it doesnt have as much downward force exerted onto the strings and the head...which makes the sound really poppy and bright. Aloha, PH. The banjo offered is a half year old, used, Recording King RK-O25 for about 350 dollar, gig-bag included. Saga OK-2 Do It Yourself Banjo Builders Kit - Build Kit Rover Front Porch Series RB-110 Open Back 5 String Banjo Saga SS-10 Openback Open Back 5-String Banjo Gold Tone CC-50 5 String Open Back Banjo w/ Bag  Other Banjo-Related Topics The Recording King OT25 Madison Banjo is an old-time picking machine, with a steam-bent maple rim, 24-bracket tension hoop, and the clean look of all of our Madison banjos. RECORDING KING Metal Resonator Ukulele RU-998 Nickel Silver Tracking number NEW. The Recording King Madison banjos offer players an ideal combination of quality, versatility and value. I don't know much about either of these banjos, but I've heard very good reports about this company. Bridge: Maple/Ebony. Get the guaranteed lowest price on Recording King musical gear. The Recording King RK-Elite-75 5-String banjo is a vintage style banjo with a longer scale length, mahogany neck, and resonator, and a 3-ply maple rim. Click to browse current inventory! The scoop isn't necessary unless your style interferes with the end of the neck. Either way its a sturdy well made banjo...and of course the fiberskyn head is really easy to change as well if you have to wait until October. Are their any banjo places in Holland where you can try out a scooped banjo? It's not certain you want to play over the scoop either... As far as I know, the rim is the same on both models.