When he found out Lorgar's treachery he personally declared to hunt Lorgar down and kill him, only to be attacked by some sort of Daemonic proxy that blew up the main bridge of his flagship and voided him out. The Crusade lasted about a century; while it was able to drive the forces of Chaos away from some of their new holdings, Guilliman knew that it was only enough to stabilize the Imperium in its current state. It is perhaps no surprise that Imperial history records that Guilliman completely lost his temper and cool at Lorgar when the treachery was realised (insert max troll face here), perhaps this was what allowed him to survive and fight immediately afterwards the near vacuum outside a ship for 11 hours without his helmet? Suffice to say, he was NOT pleased with the whole space Catholicism thing that had been going on while he was asleep, seeing as Lorgar's desire to worship the emperor ruined everything. With that in mind this section is all about how Roboute Guilliman fares against other Primarchs mathhammer wise. Tempest also points out that the Horus Heresy actually began almost a year prior to the Battle of Calth and that both the Word Bearers and World Eaters were already burning their way through the 500 Worlds of Ultramar before they even reached the Calth system. Guilliman Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn. Call it faith and trust, call it arrogance and presumption, but Guilliman genuinely believed that he controlled the most disciplined, civilized peoples and armies within the Imperium and he thought his way was best. Guilliman blamed himself for not being present to prevent the death of Konor, not the Emperor or some external foe. Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666, 0,833 after saves, 0.625 wounds after Armor of Reason, and after IWND it becomes 0.292 wounds. £3.00... more info. This is further evidenced by his rules below where he's good at buffing his army, but not to the degree of Alpharius or Perturabo while as a warrior in a straight-up fight he only loses to Horus, Leman Russ, and Fulgrim(not counting psychic interference or Primarchs with a bit of momentum behind them). It's likely we'll have to wait until the follow-up book on the Shadow Crusade to determine which of those it is. With over 250,000 legionaries, he managed to achieve compliance on the highest number of worlds during the Great Crusade, but was surpassed in military victories by the Luna Wolves, Space Wolves and Dark Angels. hide. Guilliman easily wins this fight, taking a lot less damage and dishing out more. His primary rule as a commander was "Information is victory", emphasizing that Space Marines needed theoretical knowledge and practical experience, in other words, a sound understanding of the tactical situation and a means to achieve their objective. So claiming that no man should have the power of a Legion, then place himself at the top of the chain of command for all of the Chapters that his remaining brothers were left with was a bit hypocritical. Unlike most worlds that the other Primarchs landed on, Macragge was a pretty great place to live. Ultraman (shares his name with Superman’s evil counterpart), THEE GREAT VIOLATOR (Due to his creation of the primaris marines). 122. Far from the "perfect in every aspect" figure Matt Ward promoted, the HH Guilliman is actually a man with a lot of very human weaknesses but possessing the humility to admit them as flaws he must deal with. Guilliman saw this and thought him hypocritical as the Emperor didn't believe he should ever be considered a god, but now he has to be in order to save his followers. Part of growing up involves realizing that you aren't the center of the universe and that you can't always have things go your way, and in most people this manifests through repeated failures and disappointments in life. Horus, learning about this and knowing that he could not sustain the assault on the planet anymore once the bulk of the loyalist forces came into the fight, lowered the void shields upon the Vengeful Spirit in an all-or-nothing gambit to win the war by killing the Emprah in a duel. Roboute Guilliman (/rɒb’uːt ‘guːlɪmæn/), known as The Avenging Son following the Battle of Calth, is the Primarch of the Ultramarines. Feel free to think what you want about Guilliman being OP or a Mary Sue, FW still made him more grimdark than before, even if he remains a nice dude by 30k standards. Lots of detail. Focused on the Plague Wars in Ultramar, it’s the closest look yet at reborn Primarch Roboute Guilliman in the 41st Millennium – and it’s continuing soon. Guilliman will hit with the same accuracy and re-rolls in close combat, where he really shines. Well, I finished the model some time ago, then I waited for the plinth and for the plaque. Still expect people to bitch endlessly about how he was an absolute narrow-minded hypocritical jerk, but don't feel bad about it. So with that being said, he was no more flawless than the other Primarchs; even during the Great Crusade, while he was considered to be one of the greatest strategists in the entire Imperium, he was defeated in combat simulations by Corax of the Raven Guard, having to be specifically taught that there is no fixed dividing line between non-combatants and soldiers when people are defending their homes; that under-strength units should not be ruled out as ineffective; and that small units of adaptable troops can be wielded with just as much effect as larger battalions and chapters. share. He is also not that great against hordes with morale boosts, as he has lost his Sweeping Strike ability, so make sure your other troops clean the path to help him focus on high value targets. Curze Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 1.125 times after the Invuln, 0.911 times after the re-roll and IWND will take that down to 0.578 at the start of the next turn. While Guilliman may be less colorful than the other primarchs, he is definitely more mature, and he is probably one of the few loyalist primarchs to understand while he may be a superhuman demigod, he isn’t all powerful. Know No Fear makes a point to show numerous times that there were signs and hints all over the place of what was going to happen, right after the book makes a point to show Guilliman's incredible observational skills, almost outright stating that he really should have picked up on the disparate details. Painting. Guilliman utilized his skills as a tactician and strategist to fight in his Father's crusade, preferring to form battle plans rather than actually participate in the fighting himself (though he still did his fair share of Xeno-killing). Он - повелитель человечества и владыка миллионов миров, правящий силой своих неистощимых армий. No empire, no matter how militarily powerful initially, could maintain that strength forever given the effects of corruption and inefficiency upon tax collection and military production, and civilian and military morale. The dislike for him is often based more around his legacy and the reception (or lack thereof) of a certain infamous book, although he did have a cold, imperious streak to his personality that occasionally caused friction between his brothers and himself, most famously being partially responsible for being one of the factors that turned Lorgar to Chaos, in addition to Alpharius. There is no point can he overtake Angron's average damage output. With T6 and and 2+/3++, he's really hard to bring down with small arms fire (a successful Bolter shot only has 5% chance to wound him, a Lasgun 2.7%, and this is without taking into account accuracy) and his high invulnerable save allows him to tank stronger shots. Ironically enough, Guilliman has something the Imperium needs even more desperately than new technologies and peace: managerial skills, among the primarchs Guilliman was the only one who actually seemed to be bright enough to understand and strongly insist upon. Guilliman Round 1: hits 2.778 times, wounds 1.85 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.593 wounds at the start of the next turn. Don't forget, this is all for only 125 points more than M.A.C. Guilliman Round 1: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times (Hand), 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn. Note: Due to the nature of the fight this match doesn't take into account Preternatural Strategy (Because it is balanced by Disabling Strike). Exactly as a good leader should. He's also rather tolerant of different moods and mentalities, so long as they still serve the Imperium's goals. With ALL THOSE ADVANTAGES, the Word Bearers only achieved a 3:1 casualty ratio by the end of the battle, though the Ultramarines stellar performance under the circumstances did little to soothe the loss of almost half his legion, half a million Army and Auxilia as well as billions of civilians. Guilliman's rerollable DtW doesn't do shit, as it only works against witchfires and maledictions, while Lorgar's most powerful spells are blessings. Fulgrim is notably one of the only primarchs to never experience personal failure during the Horus Heresy, and as a result he was still a spoiled manchild after becoming a Daemon Primarch until Ancient Rylanor denied him, which is explicitly noted as a huge blow to his pride. Note how tiny his sword is. An accomplished warlord and diplomat who ruled his own empire before rediscovery by the Emperor , Guilliman was unique among his brother Primarchs in that he saw himself as not only a warrior but also a builder of civilizations. Second, you have his often blind faith in the assumption that his and therefore Ultramarine nobility and camaraderie will rub off on to other, less forward thinking legions, which was a direct contributor to his massive losses at the utterly disastrous Battle of Calth. Second, he allows all Imperium units (not just Ultramarines, Imperium as a whole) within 12 inches to: As the Ultramarines' Primarch, he also has a 6" bubble that grants them a re-roll for all failed rolls to hit and wound rolls of 1 (changed with the Ultramarine's supplement), which, as explained above, also applies to him. share. Here’s a look at how their minis fit together! By subscribing you confirm that you are over the age of 13 or have consent from your parent or guardian to subscribe. It doesn't help that Yassilli nicknames our giant blueberry Robu, although he made it clear immediately that he didn't appreciate it (there's also the fact that he's like 12ft tall, so attempting to Do The Deed would be like trying to park a Cadillac in a broom closet). Guilliman loses. Guilliman set up a formal, impersonal meeting between the two of them, alongside their captains, retinues, and aides. hide. Magnus had a chuckle though. He was a pragmatist, and was well aware of the need for his sons and indeed his legion to be useful outside of war, knowing full well what would have to happen to some legions when the Great Crusade ended. Without a helmet. After learning about the Ecclesiarchy's more level-headed members and realizing its use, Guilliman works the Imperial Faith into one of his speeches even though it leaves a bad taste in his mouth. The good news is that the wait is finally over! What do you think? Meaning he was either a good diplomat or his crusade encountered more peaceful human societies. Specifically, he was unable to prevent his foster father Konor Guilliman from being killed while he was away on campaign. In terms of the model, per GW's typical modus operandi lately, it's absurdly overdesigned to make things difficult for the recasters and chinamen of the world, showing that despite GW's consumer friendly steps as of late, pulling in money always comes above common sense or consistency. He wields his old gauntlet, the Hand of Dominion, with his "Bolter" (a gun that would put any Heavy Bolter to shame) now underslung and carries no less than the Emperor's Sword. Fulgrim didn't think this one through, did he? After all, there was much potential for kinship between Lorgar and Guilliman, and their legions. Hi all, a quick look at my current WIP of Primarch Roboute Guilliman. You now have yourself a possessed/empowered/favoured Chaos Lord! Angron Round 1: Angron has Hatred, so on the first turn he will hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, 2.008 after Armour of Reason re-roll and IWND take it down to 1.675. Guilliman easily wins this fight... theoritically. Leman Round 3 and on (using the Axe of Helwinter): Hits 3.719 times, wounds 3.099 times, 1.55 after the Invuln, 1.331 after the re-roll with IWND taking that down to 0.998 at the start of the next turn. I gave everything I had to you, to them. So what could I alter to make him look like the Emperor? A fun fact is that he is also quite creeped out at the whole 'turn-a-baby-into-a-flying-cyborg' thing going around in the AdMech and Ecclesiarchy. Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 times after saves, 0.633 times after Armour of Reason and IWND will take that down to 0.3. Tumblr is a place to express yourself, discover yourself, and bond over the stuff you love. He loses when his more balls out brothers just dump damage on him but when he has the chance to let his strategy impact the fight he'll typically win. The compilation of the Imperium's history is just one part of the new Codex, with which he intends to fix the semi-functioning clusterfuck that is Imperial bureaucracy. save. If anything, it would have been very out of character for Guilliman to look the other way given their (lack of) overall performance. (Funnily enough, this actually makes him a decent counter for Lorgar's psychic faggotry, though it won't help him deny Lorgars' blessings.). In near vacuum. According to a techmarine who may or may not have been just fucking with one of Cawl's minions in the novel The Great Work, other lingering elements of people’s religious devotion to his mythologized status includes a disturbing tendency for people to kill themselves after meeting him, because they will never be Ultramarines they know that they’ll never experience a more significant moment in their lives. Encompassing the Ultramarines philosophy, Guilliman is a talented jack of all trades, but he's no master-of-none. Leave a comment below… 0. Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), causing 1.5 wounds (Scourge)/1.125 wounds (Shadow-walk) after the Invuln which drop down to 1.286 (Scourge)/0.911 (Shadow-walk) and IWND will take that down to 0.953 (Scourge)/0.578 (Shadow-walk) wounds at the start of the next turn. He understood how to run an empire, how to inspire loyalty and how to temper the flawed nature of humanity with organisation and discipline. He's been lucky to survive his encounters with Magnus and Mortarion who both easily outmatched him and is deeply unhappy with the Imperium and the Emperor alongside supposed allies like the inquisition actively making his life difficult because their power is threatened. Article by Spikey BIts. Papa Smurf learns from his mistakes. Guilliman defies this and acts as an anti nihilist, willing to struggle to his last breath if it comes down that for the slightest chance to give mankind a happy ending.